| 1st(Trail) Interview Aug 21, 2024 | 2nd interview Aug 22, 2024 | 3rd interview Aug 27, 2024 | 4th interview Aug 27, 2024 |
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What’s your role at GovStack? | PM / technical Lead on German side managing products, Sandbox, compliance testing, represent German site on diff. WG
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How often do you present GovStack to external audience? (once a …) | | | EN 2x per week, but not always via presentation, talks | |
How do you explain Building Blocks during the presentations? (Learn about artifacts) | - | specs are heart of govstack initiative they’re specs for software, not software can be stacked on top of each other to build digital services tries to explain along pract. examples visual elements? no
| sagt, dass es das Herzstück von Govstack ist, wiederverwendbare Softwarekomponenten Softwarearchitektur, die als Land aufgebaut werden muss, einmal aufbauen, wieder nutzen, nach hohe Standards aufgebaut Markt zugänglich machen, idealerweise mehr Verfügbarkeit in Zukunft Interoerable Funktionaliät Ein Baustein ist erster Schritt zur Umsetzung von GovStack (wurde am Anfang nur als Bold Vision mit hohem Risiko gesehen) (viel Konkurrenz… am Anfang viel Kritik) nach und nach Vertrauen aufbauen, langsam anfangen, … überzeugen, dass es über Wahlperioden hinweg weitergehen kann wahre Wachstumschance langfristig
EN Reference Framework: konkurrierende Systeme Akzeptanz als als neutrales Framework ist Ziel “allein kommen wir nicht durch mit Partnerländern” “wenn ihr nach diesem Ansatz aufbaut, habt ihr bessere Chancen
says that at the heart of Govstack is reusable software components. Software architecture to be built as a country, build once, use again, built to high standards Make market accessible, ideally more availability in the future Interoerable functionality A building block is the first step towards implementing GovStack (was initially only seen as a bold vision with high risk) (a lot of competition... a lot of criticism at the beginning) gradually build trust, start slowly, ... convince that it can continue over election periods True growth opportunity in the long term
Reference Framework: competing systems Acceptance as a neutral framework is the goal “We can't get through alone with partner countries” “if you build according to this approach, you have better chances Stakeholder / testimonials principle
| use info deck with slides from Hanni, building a house jump to website, using resources there explaining each of offerings showing gitbook, specifications (building blocks) etc
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How often do you present the Sandbox? (once a …) | | usually goes through 4 areas (govtest etc.) mentions sandbox, details of sandbox handed over to Nico Sandbox very complicated? to explain “why using sandbox and not directly developing the system?” her pitch isn’t “good enough” to make the case for the sandbox details → Nico
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Whom do you present GovStack to? | | | alle, die zur Teilhabe oder Finanzierung gewonnen werden sollen immer mal wieder Check-In nötig mit Audience auch intern, zur Geschäftsentwicklung internationale Geber Finanzierung und Politik
EN All those who are to be won over for participation or financing also internally, for business development German ecosystem international donors Funding and politics
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When presenting the Sandbox, what are usually the primary goals doing it? | different from presentation to presentation short mentioning to full blown demo showcase incl. working materials …following the question, what he wants to present more tooling showcase when it becomes an in depth presentation (gets more practical in occasions, to show its practicality to donors)
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comfortable when presenting? | | doesn’t have USP clear, i.e. some countries say they have own dev. environment, why using Sandbox? “why investing money in developing a use case in sandbox?”
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(optional) In your own words, would you please describe what Sandbox is? | -an enviroment to demonstrate where we vaguely called the govstack approach and hopefully in the future offer tools to test this approach. :_) | | EN It is our “reference platform” use for demonstration purposes, “tested us against our own approach”, only smaller versions deployed, downloadable and whitelabeled to use for own
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When presenting the Sandbox, do you follow a fixed approach? -> If you’re adapting to the audience, what and why are you adapting? (If the user did not mentioned) What artifacts are you presenting? would you please show us? | along the lines from confluence documentation showing specs, then sandbox, then sometimes govmarket part adaption: yes often audience seems overwhelmed by quantity of information, suggests due to possibility to look it up later
| “no…kind of” narrative build upon BBs Sandbox for testing when they want to see it, shows GitBook then goes into one of the show cases, i.e. USCT if everyone shall be more comfortable (see recording?!?!)
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When presenting the Sandbox, what are the most common questions you’re receiving? | “can we download the software/platform and use it?” “how did you decide for software solutions?” they assume other things behind the term “sandbox” often, more testing then demo (as it’s the case right now)
| only question: “is it free? is it open source? can we use it?” when Nico gives it, there are usually more questions
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When presenting the Sandbox, did you present remotely AND on location in the past? -> If so, are there any mentionable differences or things to consider when presenting remotely? | usually virtually, few / year live, i.e. beginning of the year on the MOSIP event differences: in person it’s harder to click some where, feels more pressure regarding time on stage, on stage more hectic, harder to navigate in live sessions
| a few in person presentations mentionable diff.: harder to have notes in person with sandbox she needs notes
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What the biggest obstacle or issue when presenting the Sandbox? | fells there’s a lot of text content, feels he lost people there due to amount and technicality of content, missing visual support usually explains that this is the technical “light” level, because there’s also guthub for developers, looking at it like layers, gets more technical from layer to layer
usually first shows architecture diagram, then shows the click through, while doing it, audience has to imagine what’s happening in one instance he used both side by side, felt more comfortable more helpful when going into high detail presenting it, most presentations are not that deep
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(Optional) When thinking about this, how would you improve it? | | | | |
(Optional) Do you know any knowledge about other usages of Sandbox? How and why people, outside from Govstack, are using sandbox? Did you receive any feedback in this regard? | “not sure” usually no requests from interested parties knowledge that there is “something seems often enough for people, usually it remains there
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(If there is time left) Would you please show us the steps you take when you are presenting the sandbox? | (showed it during session, see recording) Nico want it separate demonstration and usage. | | | |
Additional Question (Jonas) | Demonstration purpose and do it yourself purpose, wants to see it separately. | | was schaffen, was genutzt wird dinge schaffen, die gebraucht werden demo benefits
wenn Ministerien ansprechen, pfad muss eingehalten Rückfragen: Sandbox: In welcher Tiefe anwendbar? Was kann ich damit alles machen über Präsentation hinaus? Kurzer Pitch fehlt… Was könnte es werden, was braucht’s dafür?
EN when addressing ministries, path must be followed Queries: Sandbox: To what depth can it be used? What can I do with it beyond presentation? Short pitch is missing... What could it become, what does it need?
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